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It's another ENCORE episode this week as we wrap up the holidays and prepare for BIG things in 2026. The good news is Andee is in the driver's seat with a guest.

Jill Heineck is a Certified Divorce Real Estate Expert. Her job is to act as a real estate expert who helps couples valuate and sell their real estate holdings. Jill is a valued member of the Family Law courts, and a fascinating individual.

Join the conversation as Andee discovers the fine points of this relatively new area of Family Law!

Follow Jill on Instagram: @JillHeinekHomes
Learn more at: https://www.heineckandcompany.com

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00:25 Intro / Meet Guest Jill Heineck
01:55 What is a Certified Divorce Real Estate Expert (CDRE)?
03:46 How Divorce Real Estate Expertise Began
06:18 CDRE Training & Certification Process
10:32 How CDREs Get Involved in Divorce Cases
12:15 Real Estate Side Agreements Explained
18:42 Why Divorce Real Estate is a Long Game
21:32 Staying Neutral in Divorce Property Sales
24:20 Ethics & Confidentiality in Divorce Property Listings
32:04 Property Valuations vs. Property Listings
33:32 Are Online Home Values Reliable?
35:55 Benefits of Hiring a CDRE in Divorce
38:14 How to Contact Jill Heineck
38:55 Wrap-up

This episode is an ENCORE of Dr Kyrstin Lokkesmoe's return to her discussion with Andee on Toxic Narcissists. This time around, the ladies discuss how the Toxic Narcissist acts in Divorce proceedings. How do they appear to the judge or to a mediator? How do they treat the attorneys on the other side? Dr Kyrstin provides the clues to look for and gives advice on how to deal with it, and Andee has several observations of her own.

It's another fun, warm, and informative conversation as these two talented women break down a complicated and destructive personality disorder.

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00:21 Intro
00:51 Warrior or Diplomat
02:40 Manipulation is a hallmark of the Narcissist
05:10 What is "Projection"?
06:15 The Narcissist creates a false narrative
08:00 Stay in communication with your team
10:00 Have a plan for dealing with the Narcissist
12:30 Rely on your team
14:40 The importance of documentation to combat lies
16:50 The importance of Therapeutic Support
18:20 Anticipating the behavior
22:40 Is there a point where the Narcissist will be exposed?
25:00 Give them what they want or Fight?
27:50 Narcissists will sometimes use the court system
30:15 Dr. Kyrstin's new Coaching endeavor
31:40 Wrap-up

We're running another ENCORE this time, and it's Mali flying solo to answer the question "Why should you tell your lawyer the truth?"

Mali lays out an ironclad case for absolute honesty when it comes to explaining your case to your lawyer. She's seen first hand how disastrously a case can go when a lawyer doesn't know the whole truth about their client's situation.

So, join the conversation as Mali makes it perfectly clear that when it comes to the lawyer-client relationship, honesty is the best policy.

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00:25 Intro
00:56 Warrior or Diplomat?
03:30 A scenario with your lawyer caught off-guard
05:30 How this situation
07:10 Mali has experienced this
07:40 You MUST tell your lawyer everything
08:20 Explanation of privileged information
10:00 Embarrassing information is not new to a lawyer
11:30 Failure to disclose information lengthens cases
12:30 A longer case is a more expensive case
14:00 A good lawyer can work around these weaknesses
15:00 Settlement is often going to be your best outcome
16:20 Trust has to be maintained
17:50 A lawyer has seen it all and doesn’t judge
18:00 Honesty is cheaper overall
18:30 Wrap-up

Mali and Andee are back together in the studio for this in-depth talk on the importance of having a well-crafted Parenting Time agreement. They cover several different scenarios and many of the pitfalls inherent in working out Parenting Time for holidays throughout the year.

They offer their advice about the best ways to approach the trickiest situations and their insights as to how judges approach certain issues.


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00:24 Intro
01:10 Warrior or Diplomat?
04:10 Holidays and Parenting Plans
04:40 Holidays as defined in school calendars
05:30 Regular Parenting Time vs. Holiday Parenting Time
07:00 Work with a Family Law attorney
09:00 When one Holiday supersedes another Holiday
10:18 How will a judge settle Holiday schedules without an agreement?
11:30 Christmas Holidays
16:50 Long Weekend Holidays
18:50 Mother’s/Father’s Day and Spring/Fall Break
19:50 Birthdays
22:30 Separating emotions from the process
24:00 Accommodating family traditions
25:00 Graduated Parenting Time
28:00 A Good agreement prevents needless litigation later
29:00 Matching Parenting Plan with a new partner’s Parenting Plan
32:20 Summer Parenting Time
33:55 Take-aways
35:50 Wrap-up

Introducing Jamie Gray. She's practically a walking inspiration. Her personal story, her achievements, and her dedication to family law set her apart as an individual of drive, imagination, and faith.

This episode is destined to be a favorite for anyone who hears it. Grab a hankie and join the conversation!

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00:25 Intro / Meet Jamie Gray
01:01 Warrior vs. Diplomat
02:10 Mali’s Bodybuilding Win
06:19 Jamie’s Early Life & Family
13:03 Growing Up: School, Reading & Activities
15:39 Choosing Spelman College
20:13 Law, Social Work & Purpose
24:40 Black Girl Buying: Supporting Black-Owned Businesses
31:56 Juvenile Law and Shift to Family Law
40:01 Joining Hastings Shadmehry
42:50 Reading, Church, Niblings
48:47 Why Family Law Matters
50:34 Wrap-Up

In this episode, Andee and Mali introduce you to their make-up artist, Tiffany Nicole. Tiffany came to us a few months ago when the partners were featured in Atlanta Style and Design magazine, and she's been back several times since then.

Tiffany has her own story of perseverance and growth and she has experience helping people look and feel their best, including some who are adjusting to a new life after divorce.

Join the conversation and meet honorary Wolf Pack member and make-up artist to our stars, Tiffany Nicole!

You can book Tiffany's services as a make-up artist at:
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Tiffany is on social media at:
IG: MUATiffanynicole
TikTok: wickedgracetiff

Tiffany's new dog fragrance venture will be available at:
Website: www.Maison-de-paw.com
IG and TIKTOK: maisondepawofficial

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00:26 Intro
00:46 Tiffany's Role as our make-up artist
02:01 Andee and Mali in another magazine
02:55 Warrior or Diplomat
08:38 Tiffany's early career & Move to GA
09:52 Retail Management Career
12:06 Tiffany's business as a make-up artist
15:30 Client Types & Approach
21:19 Makeovers and the power of reinvention
26:28 Announcing Maison de Paw
32:23 Product Details & Launch Plan
35:25 Empowerment Message
39:46 Wrap-up

There's some extra energy in this episode because Andee and Mali are together in the studio for the first time in quite a while. The topic is the Marital Balance Sheet -- how it works, how it's used, why it is important to do one, do it early, and keep it updated.

But of course, they cover some other areas, like their recent trials and hearings, Mali's body building fitness journey, how to be a cheer leader for your best friends, and normalizing how women discuss their health and their weight.

Join the conversation, but buckle in -- this is a fun one.

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00:31 Intro & Firm Updates
01:14 Warrior or Diplomat?
02:18 Recent Trial Experience
04:03 Trial Prep Intensity
09:59 Topic Intro: Marital Balance Sheets
10:11 Definition & Purpose
11:54 Cash & Bank Accounts
13:48 Retirement Accounts
14:47 Real Property & Mortgages
15:26 Personal Property & Businesses
16:33 Balance Sheets at Trial
18:17 Debts & Netting
20:47 Separate Property Explained
22:59 Proposed Division & Strategy
25:36 Complex Cases & Forensic Accounting
26:37 Client Cooperation & Documents
28:27 Wrap up

We have returned from hiatus, and yet Mali is back in court. The great news is that Andee is in the driver's seat and she has a guest!

Jill Heineck is a Certified Divorce Real Estate Expert. Her job is to act as a real estate expert who helps couples valuate and sell their real estate holdings. Jill is a valued member of the Family Law courts, and a fascinating individual.

Join the conversation as Andee discovers the fine points of this relatively new area of Family Law!

Follow Jill on Instagram: @JillHeinekHomes
Learn more at: https://www.heineckandcompany.com

Visit our website: https://hsfamilylaw.com
Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hastingsshadmehry
Instagram: @HastingsShadmehry
email us: podcast@hsfamilylaw.com

Contact us for a consultation: https://hsfamilylaw.com/contact-us/

00:25 Intro / Meet Guest Jill Heineck
01:55 What is a Certified Divorce Real Estate Expert (CDRE)?
03:46 How Divorce Real Estate Expertise Began
06:18 CDRE Training & Certification Process
10:32 How CDREs Get Involved in Divorce Cases
12:15 Real Estate Side Agreements Explained
18:42 Why Divorce Real Estate is a Long Game
21:32 Staying Neutral in Divorce Property Sales
24:20 Ethics & Confidentiality in Divorce Property Listings
32:04 Property Valuations vs. Property Listings
33:32 Are Online Home Values Reliable?
35:55 Benefits of Hiring a CDRE in Divorce
38:14 How to Contact Jill Heineck
38:55 Wrap-up